LYING Case case@pilosoft.com lying, cheating, social engineering, socialism, se, hackers, stupid, fucked up This file is not a tutorial on how to lie. Instead, it is about something that really disurbs me, not only in the hacking scene, but in every area of life. It is particularly bad in the hacking scene, though, since it is so easy to meet and talk to people without knowing anything about them. Everyone is "on their honor" to represent themselves accurately, and it seems that some of us are not very honorable. Time and time again, I am shocked that people feel the need to lie in order to impress me. I am not that hard to impress. Show me something you've done, written, or programmed, and if it is half decent, I will respect you for it. And yet so many people, lacking the real experience and know-how to really do anything hacking-wise, just make shit up when they talk to me. The worst part is that it is so obvious. I am experienced enough, and hopefully intelligent enough, to know when someone is making up whatever hacking feat they are bragging about. So there's simply no point in lying to me about it. Of course, in most cases they are skilled at covering up lies, probably because they are very experienced at it. If I ever ask, out of curiosity or with the outward appearance of trying to help (and I would help if the proof actually existed), for some scrap of evidence, a log, or partial log, or what-have-you, there is always some perfect excuse: "Oh, I got scared and deleted it all." This excuse is kind of silly, because without some secure-deletion diskwiping program (or the secure delete flag in an ext2 filesystem under Linux), deleting a log will not keep it out of the hands of a government agency determined to get it. It is pretty common knowledge among people who...KNOW what they're talking about(!) that law enforcement can, and do, spend a lot of time with sophisticated disk- recovery tools picking over seized computers' hard drives. In any case, I have heard even more outlandish coverups from filthy liars, but I won't name any specifically, for reasons I will explain shortly. So there you go, you know the sort I am talking about, and if you have spent any time on BBS's, on underground-ish channels on IRC, on confs, or wherever beginners (I've always hated the term "newbie," it's degrading, and as long as someone calls himself a newbie, he will amount to nothing) congregate, you have probably encountered this type of person. Maybe you've known some in real life, I know I have. But the question remains, WHY do they lie? What makes them feel the urge? I can think of a few reasons people might lie to me: 1. He/she underestimates me, and thinks I won't know he/she is lying. The person tries to seem "elite" in my eyes by claiming to have commited serious acts of telecomm crime. 2. He/she looks up to me, for God only knows what reason, and wants me to accept him/her. The person wants me to see him/her as an equal. 3. He/she is fucking neurotic, and needs to boost his/her self worth, consciously or unconsciously, by trying to portray his/her self as being more important in the grand scheme of things than he/she will ever really be. I am sure there are more specific reasons, but most are probably going to fall into those categories. Look, I am not perfect, I have lied before in my life. But I am glad to say that I have not lied for any of these reasons, because these sorts of lies are entirely inexcusable. What it all boils down to is that the person is trying to elevate my opinion of him through lying. Well that simply doesn't work. If I know he is lying, my opinion of him will be as low as possible. And if I think he might be lying to me, I will always be suspicious of the person, always wondering about everything he says, looking for inconsistencies. I will probably pass my opinions of the person along to other people I know, and his reputation will not improve. Even though I can often detect a lie, I never (well, rarely) confront a liar. There are a few reasons for this. One is that I always give people the benefit of the doubt, unless they have let me down many times in the past, so if there is any uncertainty as to whether they are lying, I will not say anything. I might deliberately ask a few difficult questions, just for the pleasure of watching them squirm, but I will not call them a liar. I would feel terrible if I had accused someone of lying and they turned out to be telling the truth, or to be genuinely confused about something they didn't really understand. The other reason I don't confront certain people is a little more complex. In some cases, the liar is a good friend, or significant other, of someone I consider a friend. So I make an effort to act civil towards the liar, because I don't want to complicate any other relationships I have with anyone. This can be difficult, but it is worth it to avoid having friends of mine, who may be slightly gullible, angry at me. Now, I would be wasting my time if I didn't expect someone to gain something from reading this. So here, I will spell out for you exactly what you should gain: If you are a beginner to the hacking scene (such as it is...ugh), or really if you are anyone at all that ever communicates with any other people in any way, this should tell what people think of liars, and how easy they are to spot. I hope you'll think twice before making shit up to impress people. For those of you who are just naturally honest (but aren't we all naturally honest?), this should be encouraging. Your peers who lie won't have any real advantage over you. Be yourself. Be true. If you are not such a beginner, or if you think you are being lied to, don't tolerate it! If someone is dishonest, knowing them will not help you. It will only hurt you. They might get you into trouble, in any number of ways. Worse yet, the person might be a fed, or some sysadmin who feels he has a personal vendetta against you or someone you know. If you have a bad feeling about a person, don't bother getting to know them. I hope I have made myself clear. Liars try my patience, more than almost anything else. When I was a bit younger, I had quite a temper. Nowadays, it takes a lot to set me off. Most things just don't get to me. But people lying for any of the reasons I mentioned just ruin my day. I want you to notice that I did not mention any specific incidents. The people I am talking about know who they are. If you haven't lied to me, then I am not talking to you. If, after this is published, you confront me, and claim I have been slagging you or whatever, then you are admitting that you're a fucking liar. So this shouldn't hurt anyone's feelings, I guess. That is all.